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Ask Your Peers  New Jersey IT Staffing Company with Property Loss (Closed)


George Thomas, COMM-Insure - Iselin, NJ 08830
Reputation: 20 - Total posts: 2
I have a client who is a IT Staffing Company having a loss of around 100K (Loss of Income due to water damage) this year.
Their current carrier Hartford is not renewing.
I tired a number of carriers CNA, Travelers etc - all declined to do it.
Even an MGA Burns & Wilcox said they don't have a market.
Is there any MGA - Surplus who might be able to do this.
Thanks
11 year(s) ago
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Ken Heideger, Monarch Partners Group LLC - Boca Raton, FL 33488
Reputation: 656 - Total posts: 19

Hi George ….. YES we can write Staffing and most distressed risks in all states in our "A"-rated Professional Employer Organization (PEO) and Contract Labor Service staffing (CLS) programs…. here is an email that covers much of the basic info. you need to know about our PEO and CLS programs….. Please read all below and if this risk and/or if you have a future risk that you feel is a fit, answer/provide all info. requested below. Thanks!<o:p></o:p>

Basically PEO/CLS programs entail 2 main things….<o:p></o:p>

1) the PEO/CLS must be the statutory employer of record for all covered employees, and <o:p></o:p>

2) the PEO/CLS must process and issue payroll drawn off the PEO/CLS bank accts….in some cases the Risk can process/issue own pay checks. <o:p></o:p>

NES does best costwise for risks with high xmods, high cost class codes, in state pools, with workers' compensation (WC) premiums of 50k or more, paying way more than they should be, and generally considered highly WC distressed…..we can write most risks including Staffing in our PEO & CLS programs…..If you have a Staffing risk, as you probably know, WC programs for Staffing are almost nonexistent at this time with risks going to or in state pools… however, again, we can write Staffing in our PEO/CLS programs…. NES writes/places the most Staffing in PEO/CLS programs of any brokerage in the USA. <o:p></o:p>

Under a PEO arrangement, a co-employer (primarily for benefits purposes) relationship is established between the risk and the PEO, with the PEO becoming the sole employer of record for IRS purposes. The PEO has a master "PEO" designated WC policy. The workforce is contracted back to the risk to operate and manage as usual. Under a CLS arrangement, a sole-employer relationship between the risks employees and the CLS is established. The CLS has a master "Staffing" designated WC policy. No functional control is lost of the risk's business or labor force in either case, and in many cases, both the employer and employees receive more and less costly benefits, services, and WC coverage. The main purposes and goals of these relationships is to provide the risk with more suitable and economic WC and administrative functions on an outsource basis, including all management and navigation of the Affordable Care Act's (Obamacare) regulations and implementation. In both the PEO and CLS structures, all WC covered employee payroll must be processed by (in most cases) and flow thru the PEO/CLS, with payroll checks drawn on the PEO/CLS bank accts.<o:p></o:p>

Before we quote either PEO or CLS, it must be cleared directly with risk, either by you or us jointly, that such an arrangement will work for them….so not to waste your/our time if the above basic structures will not work for them. <o:p></o:p>

Submission info needed:<o:p></o:p>

• Detailed ACORD (must have # of ees/code)<o:p></o:p>

• 3-5 yrs losses valued no more than 45 from curr date<o:p></o:p>

• last 4 quarters of State unemployment rtns (for staffing risks only)<o:p></o:p>

• Curr/renewal policy dec/rating pages<o:p></o:p>

• State pool quote (preferred)<o:p></o:p>

• Xmod sheet<o:p></o:p>

Questions on each risk:<o:p></o:p>

1. Why are they shopping their WC? If being non-renewed, why? <o:p></o:p>

2. Is "A" rated WC carrier REQUIRED by risk? <o:p></o:p>

3. Do they/you have any viable WC options at this point. If so what are they?<o:p></o:p>

4. Will they for sure goto a master policy PEO/CLS program per above if the cost/structure makes sense?<o:p></o:p>

5. Have you or the risk obtained a state pool quote yet? if so please send, if not please obtain and send or explain why you/they have not done so. <o:p></o:p>

6. Do you control this risk? if not, how did you get this opportunity?<o:p></o:p>

7. Will risk accept a deductible WC program, if so what level?<o:p></o:p>

8. What is our target annual cost we need to hit to write deal?<o:p></o:p>

<o:p></o:p>

We look forward to working with you. Thank you!<o:p></o:p>

Best Regards,<o:p></o:p>

Ken Heideger<o:p></o:p>

Nationwide Employer Services LLC<o:p></o:p>

Offices in FL and CA<o:p></o:p>

954-554-3456<o:p></o:p>

11 year(s) ago
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Nancy Elias, CompleteMarkets - Big Bear City, CA 92314
Reputation: 4229 - Total posts: 335
Hi George,

Thank you for using CompleteMarkets!

Here is a link to our multi-submit contact form that will get you in touch with the companies that provide Staffing Insurance in New Jersey. Submit a Request Now!


Thank you!
11 year(s) ago
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Remy  Bickoff, Novus Insurance Services  - Irvine, CA 92612
Reputation: 45 - Total posts: 7
Hi George,

We have several dedicated Lloyds property facilities that can handle any E&S property submission you have.

Please send me an email. We will need 5 yrs loss runs, accord forms, and our statement of values. We can turn this around very quickly as well with a full submission.

My email is [email protected]

Kind regards,

Remy Bickoff
Director
11 year(s) ago
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David Wix, Ramsgate & 1st Quality Insurance - Lake Wales, FL 33854
Reputation: 518 - Total posts: 58
Hi George, US Risk does this type of account as well.
11 year(s) ago
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James Drake, McKinley Financial Services Inc. - Sunrise, FL 33351
Reputation: 5 - Total posts: 1
Hello George -

I'm in Florida. Just placed a PEO with AIG through Unisource Program Administrators, Tampa. They may be able to help.

James E. Drake, CPCU, CLU, ARM
McKinley Financial Services Inc.
1451 W. Cypress Creek Rd., Suite 300
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33309
11 year(s) ago
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Paul  Orlando, Nif Group, Inc. - Manhasset, NY 11030
Reputation: 412 - Total posts: 14
Hello George,

NIF Group Inc, specifically our New Jersey Branch (NIF Services of N.J.) is a full service MGA, E&S Broker and Program Administrator. We can assist you in placing this property risk within one of our many property markets. If you're looking for the GL and PL lines, we can also help you using one of our in-house binding authorities.

You can send me an email at: [email protected]

Thanks,

Paul
11 year(s) ago
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Jim Thomas, Allan M Block Agency Inc - Sleepy Hollow, NY 10591
Reputation: 28 - Total posts: 4
Hello George, I have had very good experience with World Wide Specialty in Melville, NY wwspi.com and Philadelphia Insurance Co.
I'm not sure how your LOI loss will effect their underwriting appetite. Good Luck.
11 year(s) ago
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Rex Williams, Great Southern Agency - Carrollton, GA 30117
Reputation: 290 - Total posts: 40
Hello George,
Weighing in on the others, also give a try to All Risks, who has just rolled out a Program for Staffing/PEO and has AIG, great capacity for property loss. allrisks.com Others: JM Wilson jmwilson.com and Johnson & Johnson jjins.com JJ is newer to your seaboard, but their Underwriters are among the most pragmatic in the industry.
Best to you,
Rex Williams
11 year(s) ago
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Parker Lindsey, Prime Insurance Company - White City, UT 84070
Reputation: 15 - Total posts: 3
Hi George,

We would be happy to help you with this risk, also future hard to place distressed risks.

www.primeis.com
877.257.5590

If you have trouble feel free to contact me directly.

Parker Lindsey
(801) 304-5572
Email: [email protected]
11 year(s) ago
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Kelly  Stephens, Continental Risk /Continental Marine Insurance Services - Lodi, CA 95240
Reputation: 90 - Total posts: 12
Hi George, We are happy to help. We are a E&S wholesaler that can help with all different types of risks. Staffing Companies included. Please feel free to send me your submission.
Kelly Stephens
Continental Risk
phone: 866-699-2747
email: [email protected]
11 year(s) ago
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Nancy Elias, CompleteMarkets - Big Bear City, CA 92314
Reputation: 4229 - Total posts: 335
Hi George,

Thank you for using CompleteMarkets! We want to ensure you were able to get the help you need. Were you able to find a company to help you? If not I'd be happy to provide additional assistance. Please just reply to this discussion forum and I can reach out to you to help!

Thank you!
11 year(s) ago
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